The conversation was civil but it wasn’t pleasant. I started by letting her know how I felt during Tuesday morning’s incident. I tried to explain that it wasn’t about her needs versus my needs on weekday mornings, but about her being aggressive when it wasn’t called for, treating me as the enemy. I pointed out that it was exactly the behavior I wrote about in my letter: a pre-emptive attack in lieu of simply stating her needs. I told her I’d been beating myself up all week over my not stepping up the way I’d promised to in my letter. That I felt as if I’d failed my duty to both of us by lapsing into our established pattern, defending myself instead of letting her know right away how out of line she was.
She told me how she’d been feeling at the time. That she felt I was just riding right over her (uncommunicated) needs, that the “new regime” (her words) meant that I could do whatever I wanted and she had no say in it. My taking charge—although as yet hardly acted upon—made her feel defensive, leading to her aggressiveness. This was good information for me, and I talked with her about it until it was clear to me that she knew her feeling wasn’t based on fact. I repeated that I viewed my leadership as a serious responsibility that meant making an effort to meet her needs whenever they didn’t clash with mine, which I view as equal in importance, not greater. I understood her feelings, but they didn’t excuse her approach.
When I thought we’d understood each other’s positions, I asked her if she remembered what I said I’d do if she disrespected me the way she used to. “No,” she said. “I said I’m going to punish you,” I said, gently.
“So what does that mean?” she asked, her face hardened.
“I’m going to spank you today. I’m not going to punish you hard, because I should have handled this earlier…”
“What do you mean, you’re not going to punish me hard?” Her voice was challenging.
I was confused by the question. “I’m not going to punish you hard,” I repeated.
“What do you mean, not hard?”
“I mean I’m not going to punish you as hard as I might in another circumstance.”
“But what do you mean by hard?” It was her voice that was hard. I felt interrogated, but I didn’t feel threatened. I tried to explain in another way.
“Well, I’m not going to make you cry…”
“You’re telling me that you would actually try to make me cry?” said Anne, shocked and offended.
It’s a story for another time, but I had spanked her once before, almost two years ago. Just three slaps, exceedingly light. All the same, she had sobbed uncontrollably and told me several times in succeeding months how I’d spanked her hard. Because I literally could hardly spank her any more lightly, I had a good indication that tears were likely to be a part of any future spankings.
“Yes,” I said evenly.
To my surprise, she didn’t follow up on that with a lecture on the innate cruelty of my character. She changed the subject, and the next ten minutes ran the gamut of protests and hard questions. What about the humiliation factor? Did I think she was a child and I was her father? Spanking is for kids. Exactly why did I think that spanking could ever be a good thing in an adult marriage? Didn’t I see how arcane, how weird, how off-the-wall it was? Didn’t it turn me on sexually, and wasn’t that icky?
To say I had good answers for all of these questions would be a lie. Many of them were good questions, and Anne was utterly convincing in her outrage. I had two advantages: I was calm, and I was resolved. I listened to everything she had to say, and gave her the respect she deserved.
“If you can look me in the eyes,” I said to Anne, “and tell me that this isn’t fair, I won’t punish you today.” She looked at me, but she didn’t say anything.
When she’d spent her arguments, I told her that being equal and without a plan for the first ten years of our marriage had not worked out for us. And while she had great talents in business and in many other areas, between the two of us, she was not the most qualified to run the relationship. She didn’t read books about marriage and love, as I did, and when I asked her to read them, she had no comment on them. She wasn’t patient or interested with research on effective communication, either: it was just so much pop psychology to her. By contrast (I told her), I spent quite a few hours a day thinking about how to make our marriage better. I couldn’t keep living the way we’d been living, and I wanted—needed—to give this radical change a try.
“So you’re saying it’s this, or…” Anne said. She meant I wasn’t giving her a choice, that it was DD or end the marriage.
I thought. “How do I put this? If we don’t try this, Anne, I don’t know what will happen. We need a change, and I have no Plan B.”
I could see her think. She had no more questions to ask, no more charges to level, and I was still resolved. Her face changed. It was not a happy face, but she’d made a decision. “All right,” she said. “I have no Plan B, either.” And she was done talking.
I stepped away a few feet and pulled a straight-backed chair from the dining room. She went over my lap on her own. I don’t know how it felt to her, but for me, it was a strangely comfortable feeling, as if she’d always been intended to be there. She was wearing elastic cotton tights over panties. I ran my hand over her bottom and slapped her very lightly, on the left and on the right.
She wasn’t sobbing, but she was weeping softly. She didn’t struggle. I gave her ten, about two seconds apart. I increased the force slightly. The last slap was still short of the force I use when applauding at a concert. “Okay,” I murmured. “We’re done.”
She stood up and buried her face in her hands, crying. I put my arms around her and told her I was proud of her, that she was a strong, adult woman. I held her for a little while, but she didn’t relax into me. I let her go and watched her. I put my hand on her back. “I can stay here with you. Would you rather I go away?” She nodded, still turned away from me, not speaking. “Okay. I’ll be here if you need me.” I went into the kitchen and started doing dishes.
In about ten minutes she came in and silently started working beside me, setting out the ingredients for the meal she’d planned—chicken breasts stuffed with feta cheese and kalamata olives. A few minutes after that, she started conversation, just as naturally as ever. Dinner included not only the chicken, but a great salad with homemade chili-lime vinaigrette, something we hadn’t had before. It was delicious and I made sure she knew it. She seemed happy and easy. We had a normal evening. As we went to sleep, she took my hand. “Good night, sweetie.” Content.
Sounds like it went pretty well; I’m glad for you. It’s interesting that you do all the marriage improvement reading and planning – in my house, I’m the one who does that, but I still need my husband to be HOH.
Yes, I suppose I’m atypical in that way.
Good for you, for staying strong and good for Anne for being willing to try it. Even though she couldn’t quite lean in for comfort after it seems like she resolved whatever thoughts were spinning in her head. I wonder if she’ll want to talk about it at some point.
Glad you turned this into a success and hope you feel good about it.
Susie, I hope she will talk about it when she’s ready.
How do I feel? Pretty good—not about the spanking so much as about how she was the next day. I’ll talk about that in my next blog post.
Kevan, it sounds like it went quite well, all things considered. It’s good that you were calm and resolved and listened to her objections and questions and responded to them. I think you guys are off to a good start.
Thanks, Grace! I hope so!
Kevan, I think it sounds like it went great, all things considered. it’s a good thing that Anne has a voice and knows how to use it, and it’s a good thing that you’re so attentive and will listen. I think this was a big step towards a better marriage! Kudos! Sara
Yes, Sara, she does know how to use her voice—much better than I know how to use mine! Thank you.
Wow, I’m just now catching up with blogs. What a turn of events. I too think this is a big step forward! Your communication seems spot on.
Thanks, Emi! Welcome back!
As a submissive, it was really difficult for me to wrap my head around the fact that inequality in our relationship did not mean that we were of unequal worth.
That’s a good point, lil. I’ve actually been uneasy over the fact that I wrote (and said) “being equal and without a plan” hadn’t worked instead of “having equal roles and without a plan.” We are, and always will be, of equal worth and have equal human rights. What we must learn is to move from equivalent to complementary roles.
Well, as if getting to the point of deciding whether or not to spank wasn’t hard enough, Anne then had a good array of questions for you too. You handled them really well, and I can’t help but think that your tone of voice and body language must have played a big part in reassuring her that it wasn’t only about “hurting her” but that this act would serve to change the behaviors that haven’t served either of you in the past.
Whatever the reason, it’s great that Anne was able to take that big step!
I do wonder if she might have cried for reasons other than the pain, especially since you said that you didn’t spank very hard. I have often cried b4 a spanking. So at that point, for me, it wasn’t about the pain. It was more the feelings of having disappointed H, and really myself as well. It is contrition, but born of internal feelings that come about b/c of *punishment*, not necessarily the pain.
Like Susie said, maybe she’ll be able to explain some time.
It sounds like this worked out well for you both. I’m so glad of that!
Elysia, she has a low pain tolerance, but I agree, it couldn’t have been the pain. Like you, she must have a very complex internal reaction to punishment. I deeply want to understand.
After about three years, I still get nervous about spanking Lynda (but don’t tell her I said so). I often have to wait a day or so to sort out my thoughts and figure out where the line was crossed.
Sara mentioned how it was good that Anne has a voice. Lynda has been trying to find her and oddly, DD is helping her do it.
Like you, I’m the one that has done all the thinking and the reading about the relationship. She depends on me to guide us.
I believe Anne was happier afterward because you found a way to actually get resolve a conflict and go forward.
Mick, some time recently I came across an entry on your blog in which you said that even after all this time, it was still never easy. It made an impression on me, and reset my expectations about my own future with Anne.
In this case, our normal way of dealing with the problem would have been to let it expire. After four days, we were well on the way there. I thought she might be shocked and hurt that I changed the game plan, but you’re right, she seems to have also felt that lack of resolution after all, and needed one.